Football violence, old and new
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The old hands of football violence at clubs like Millwall are breeding a new generation of lout, as offensive and as stupid as themselves - but now they have the internet to organise their violence.
Football violence has been around for decades, with many unsavoury louts who have never been apprehended for long careers of sickening crime. A new generation of football louts is coming of age, with a vengeance, as football violence and banning orders triples. One signal feature of the new football violence is anonymous bulletin boards and online chat forums where the old and new exchange boastful anecdotes, and where violent altercations are pre-planned.
These bulletin boards and forums are a real threat to the sport, a threat to the public and an opportunity in crime detection. They are also a cesspit of racism, homophobia, misogynistic humour and pornography - and, like graffiti, the cyber-detritus of such sites is an indicator and propellant of real crime.
For instance, on "Millwall L.L.G" (Lovely Lovely Geezer, apparently) a "realbushwhacker" exchanges the following anecdote ( http://members.boardhost.com/Mozzer/msg/1287095063.html):
Millwall L.L.G
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SWITCHED OFF LOUT = For buff and all others funny story
Posted by Realwacker on October 14, 2010, 23:24:23
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Reading away 80s, Had a bit of fun and games with some blacks before the game and my old mate black
c rip, got knocked sparko but after the game round 2 and somebody set fire to the house the blacks run into
and they got batted when they exited the smoking house.
Anyway jibbed in the ground and got into the ex seats next to a mike that was for the pre-match lottery or
some shit, Next thing is got hold of the mike turned it on ####ing blinding it worked so looked around for
others in the next block to us and cunted gg vb it went right round the whole ground they looked up to the dj
box and the bloke inside was shitting himself saying no its not me waving his arm around next day a pal
called and said go out and buy the daily mirror and look at the millwall report so i go out and piss myself
laughing in the shop that cunts have only gone and put it in the paper a classic but to me just anouther day
with the wackers taking the piss.
He later confirms "Was class lags the mic was just sitting there i picked it up and turned it on and its worked i could not beleive it mate it went round the whole ####ing ground i gave it a milllllllllllllllllllllll then cunted my pals who were gutted then ####ed off when the dj started to point at us and 5 old came running up to the seats" while other members compliment him with "ha ha", "quality" and "classic".
In other words, the young members are amused and impressed by a racially motivated assault and arson attack.
Millwall L.L.G. is just one of many such football violence sites, and others include:
Milwall L.L.G http://members.boardhost.com/Mozzer/index.html
Millwall Youth http://members5.boardhost.com/mfcyouth/index.html
Millwall Independent Supporters Association (MISA) http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?showforum=2
House of Fun http://www.hof.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=4
Leeds Service Crew http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/
Leeds Service Crew new forum http://leedssc.myfreeforum.org
Millwall Online http://www.millwall.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=5
Grimeforum http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70878


Criminal website admins
Some of this is worse even than you portrayed. The man running Millwall Independent Supporters Association site is called Dean West, convicted of threatening behaviour in public - http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A64704017 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8563274.stm and http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/football-fans-walk-free-after-tube-brawl-1920061.html
He is facing more serious charges of wounding with intent for glassing a guy in a nightclub "August 13, 2010 DEAN WEST:ELECTRICIAN ACCUSED OF ATTACKING TWO HOCKEY INTERNATIONALS. A trainee electrician accused of attacking two international hockey players in a nightclub has appeared in court. Dean West, 22, Bicknor Road, Maidstone, allegedly glassed England and Great Britain forward Martin Jones, 29, in the face leaving him scarred." http://www.courtnewsuk.co.uk/online_archive/?name=dean+west&place=&courts=0
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/10/464279.html?c=on#comments
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/10/464971.html?c=on#comments
He even made US news http://www.periscopepost.com/2010/09/football-thugs-run-riot-usa-today-takes-notice/ but seems to have a pathetic unemployed life http://z7.invisionfree.com/MISA_Message_Board/index.php?s=44bb7441bde7620c28951f1bb12803b1&showtopic=418